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06-02-2008, 08:04 AM
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| | Gnarly Old Codfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silverdale, Washington Age: 59
Posts: 4,778
| Energy Costs With skyrocketing energy costs, power to run our tanks takes on a much more critical factor on maintaining or startup up our energy hog systems.
Certainly plays a great role in any decision I may have had about increasing system size in future.
Unfortunately, like cars, downsizing becomes a very real possible requirement for many.
Going to be a killer for LFS's - greatly increasing their costs of doing business...not good for any of us...
God help those with home mega tanks.
Before I have to stop feeding my children completely to support my SW addiction, what idea's can we come up with to save on power costs...
Some initial thoughts I have are,
Keeping ave. temp at minimal level 75/76 degrees...?...lower?
Reducing light periods to minimum...(not set for "maximum growth" but minimum for safe survival)...
Stocking tank with lower light requiring species.
Insulating tank/sump areas somehow...? (covering tank with something when lights off at night? - insulating blanket, Styrofoam???)
Maximizing existing light efficiency...increase frequency of bulb replacement, making crystal clear water a priority, switching to less energy intensive lighting systems...ummm, what else? _________ AG "125," AquaC EV 180, 30 gal sump, "SCWD", 80 lbs LR, CoralSeaLife "Moonlite" Hood, PFO 250W HQI Mini-Pendant (SPS HQI 14000k bulb)
12 Gallon NanoCube - 24w stock PC 50/50 light "...nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank, only bad things happen fast..."
- MIKE PALLETTA - (2008 Reef log) ("OmarD"/"Scott") |
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06-02-2008, 08:13 AM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 387
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| I think lighting has to be the most expensive thing to run on a tank. Hopefully LED's will eventually be the way forward and be more cost effective. There are new products coming out all of the time but it still remains to be seen whether it is a viable alternative, I have no doubt in a year or two that it will be.
Of course having lots of pumps wont help either. Buying a larger pump that can operate more than one piece of equipment would be a good idea, as long as the watts aren't greater than the smaller individual pumps!
Only having your electrical items on when you need it, stuff like ph monitors.
Can't really think of anything else!
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80gal with live rock (35kg/70lbs), 30gal sump, refugium with live rock, chaeto and DSB, Bullet-1 skimmer, Fluidized Reactor, T5 lighting (6 tubes), 4 x Koralia 3's. |
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06-02-2008, 08:29 AM
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| | Montipora Digitata
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CT Age: 28
Posts: 1,076
| Since my skimmer is HOB, the pump is in the display tank. Well that 500 gph pump heats up the tank during the day. Since my skimmer is oversized for my tank, I'm planning on running my skimmer only at night. I've also propped up the tank lids to help cool the tank during the day (I don't have a chiller yet, but I may need one this summer.) I may switch to eggcrate covers and just deal with topping off the tank with fresh water every few days. I'll cut back on the actinic and daylight lights by one hour a day (turn on half hour later, and turn off half hour earlier) to help keep the tank cooler as well. _________ |
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06-02-2008, 08:37 AM
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| | Ocellaris Clown
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tulsa, Ok Age: 28
Posts: 1,470
| I'm hoping some more competition comes up in the LED lites and some more reviews are done for them to say how they work with each type of coral/clam over time they haven't been marketed long enough to make me comfortable with them just yet
But the idea of using 10% of the power of MH's or whatever the exact number is and having a 5yr bulb lifetime is pretty nice
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24G JBJ Nano, 20# Live Sand, 20# Live Rock
Rose BTA, Xenia, Shrooms, Green Candy Cane, multiple types of zoas and palys
Blue/Green Chromis, 2x Black & White Percs, Dragon Goby, Six Line Wrasse
90g DSA - D.O.B. 11-4-08
ASM G2 skimmer, mag18 return, MRC CR1 CA Reactor, Phos Reactor, Tek 8x54 T5HO
130# Live rock, 100# Live sand |
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06-02-2008, 02:46 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 23
Posts: 367
| Yeah, I think the LED systems will be the mainstream lighting technique near in the future. Unfortunately, until there is hard competition within this market, it may be several more years before we start seeing these systems for less than 2,000. But definitely love the idea of them. Not just for decreased energy costs, but the way they mimic the actual solar cycle. _________ Kibbles and bits and bits and bites, and bacon and bits and kibbles and bits...... NOT reef safe |
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06-02-2008, 02:51 PM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
Posts: 4,359
| Our coral tanks cost 3,500 a month to light up .. And a local buddy here pays about 2,300 a month for his LFS and I know the shop in Richmond runs ipwards of 5,000 a month and 6,800 on the avareage summer months . Thats why I changed out all the lights and pump at the shops to 240V and the same here at home.. _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) |
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06-02-2008, 09:16 PM
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| | Ocellaris Clown
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tulsa, Ok Age: 28
Posts: 1,470
| yeah i've been reading that 220/240 uses far less power and has a longer life cycle, I'm going to probably look at that for my next build for sure I think atleast for all the pumps, ect |
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06-02-2008, 09:31 PM
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| | KingFish
Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Pt. Richmond, Ca. Age: 38
Posts: 7,522
| You could go the Goemans' route... wind and solar: Air-X Marine Wind Turbines
It's kind of the hybrid argument right now though as they are both expensive investments initially. |
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06-02-2008, 09:51 PM
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| | Ocellaris Clown
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tulsa, Ok Age: 28
Posts: 1,470
| solar isnt a bad option depending on where you live, here in oklahoma with the weather issues we have it's not an option for me which sucks cause I'd love to set it up, the biggest issue I ran into was to get a decent amount of consistent wattage from it you end up with a roof totally covered in solar panals
example of the weather, yesterday we had softball sized hail accompanied by 80mph wind gusts |
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06-02-2008, 10:06 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 105
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| The new style urban helical wind generators are growing rapidly in popularity, especially since they can generate decent power in very little wind, plus they are compact and generate power no matter what direction the wind is blowing.
I would say an in-ground thermal transfer unit might also be a viable alternative to running a chiller as well.
Magnetic drive powerheads would keep the heat on the outside of the tank and reduced resistance would use less wattage.
Insulate all non-visible surfaces with 1" thick styrofoam sheeting, and create a more aesthetical covering for the visible surfaces by covering with a nice vinyl material (like a hot-tub cover) and just put in place when not viewing (bedtime).
Insulate tubing and piping throughout the system.
Reduce amount of time high-powered lighting is on (say, by one or two hours per day). |
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