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02-25-2006, 09:46 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 45
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|  This is a $ Contact Sport!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow have I been bit!!!!!!!!! 
Just getting the reef tank set up and I'm onto a FOWLR! Believe it or not I started out wanting a Picasso and a Lion. Before you know it I fell in love with Corals and forgot all about my aggression! A Gazillion dollars and a Bizillion Watts later I visit the LFS with my wife and she says "Wow we have got to have a lion, some triggers, a maneater a coral hater and anything else that eats everything for fun"!!!
Hence...The FOWLR!
46 gal 36x12x20. I've got a Fluvol 404 hanging around and plenty of LR and Sand...What else do I need  Skimmers...Sumps...lights...There has got to be some place to show my wallet I'm not the village idiot!
Help 
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180 Gallon Reef, 150 lbs of LR and 4" LS. 4-175w 10k MH. 8-110 W actinic VHO, 2 Wave2K, LifeReef Skimmer . A 90 gal sump, Top-Off. 2Mag 9.5 return, Life Reef CR LCR-1. 1 Cin Clown, Bub coral, Xenia, Purp Tang, Yellow Tang, Pogoda, 4 Gobies, Niger Trigger, Angel, Brittle Star | 
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02-25-2006, 09:51 PM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 49
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How long have you had this thing set up? Go slow!
Perhaps you should do the fish-only thing for 6 months to a year, and then slowly add the coral that you want. I think this is the direction that I am heading.
If you really want the coral now, please take a deep breath and do a lot of reading (on 3Reef and other places). Then, jump in! _________ -- SAW39 45 gal modified hex. Started and cycled August 2005.
2 Serpent Stars, Ocelaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Green Chromis damsel, Condalactis & Macrodactyla dorensis anemones, 1 big bristleworm, 1 small Banded Coral shrimp.
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02-25-2006, 09:57 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 45
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FOWLR is a seperate tank. Both for all intents of purpose will be FOWLR for 4-6 months. I'm just setting 1 up to be reef safe. The other for the more aggressive fish triggers, etc. Pretty clear on the reef tank just want to know what I need for the FOWLR.
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02-25-2006, 10:28 PM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: Jan 2006
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for a fish only tank you can use pc,t-5 you don,t need mh, and if your going to have triggers you need a good skimmer. there pretty mess eaters .
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90gl 2x175mh t-5 dyi sump and rufg quiet one 4000 | |
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02-25-2006, 10:37 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 45
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Blub! Thanks.
Sump and Berlin??? No Sump? HOT Skimmer? | |
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02-28-2006, 08:26 PM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 49
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Need a skimmer, for sure. If the fish are as messy as Blubfish says, you'll want a good filter, too.
Sump? Up to you. Most people on this site recommend a sump or refugium. (I don't have one, because I don't want it in the nice living room where grandson can get at it.) | |
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03-01-2006, 09:02 AM
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| | Spaghetti Worm
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: montreal, QC,Quebec Age: 29
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with your fluval you would be ok without a sump imo but make sure you clean it every other week and you would definitly need a skimmer. _________ 
20Gal high, 25 lbs LR, 65W PC 10 000K + 65w PC Actinic
Sixline wrasse
RBTA, Montipora digitata, Ricordea, Green star polyps, Button polyps, Zo's, Finger leather, Pulsing xenia, Mushrooms
Skunk cleaner shrimp,Hermits and snails
10 gal sump/fuge, 10 lbs LR, Caulerpa, Cheatomorpha, halimeda | |
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03-01-2006, 09:31 AM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carpentersville, IL Age: 52
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Set the Fluval up for bio more the chemical. FOWLER's especially with Lions are dirty. Get a big skimmer.
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300 Reef; 325LR, 1/2" sand bed in tank, 3" sand bed in 215 gal sump/refugium and Berliner PowerPro SS twin becket skimmer. 210 Reef; with 225 lbs of LR, 300 lb DSB, Large W/D and Jebo 520 skimmer modified to accept a becket. 90 RR FOWLR; tied into the 300's sump with a closed loop for extra circulation. 55 hospital. | |
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03-01-2006, 10:49 AM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 50
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Get a bigger tank if you want to keep triggers and lionfish. 46g is way too small IMHO! _________ 75g reef with Nova Extreme 8 bulb HO T-5 lighting, refuge, Remora skimmer, DSB, Seio powerheads, Acro's, LPS corals, assorted zoo's & mushrooms, Yellow Tang, Maroon Clown, Blue Cleaner Goby , Cleaner, Fire and Sexy Shrimp, Coco Worm, T.Crocea Clam, Derasa Clam
120g FOWLR, 260w Orbit power compact lights, Remora Pro skimmer, 30g DIY Sump/Refuge, DSB,Seio Power heads, Powder Blue Tang, Purple Tang, Flag Fin Angel, False Eye Puffer, Copperbanded Butterfly and a Moorish Idol  | |
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03-03-2006, 09:49 PM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 49
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Oh, I don't know about that, Raven. Triggers are tough, but slow-moving fish like Lions don't need a lot of room.
A long time ago I had a beautiful huge Black Volitan Lionfish in a 30G tall hex. But, he was the only creature in the tank. | |
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