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10-14-2007, 04:26 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29
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| Overflow problem?? HELP!!! Ok am truly f#^%ed! How do I determine the water level of my main tank using a overflow?? Ok looking at the pic my logical assumption would be the blue line. It is NOT the blue line. Ok let’s assume water surface tension is large. How low must I put my overflow box???? I put it at the level I wanted...overflows my tank I moved it 1/2 inch down...overflows my tank I slow my pump down...less water...still over flows. Is there a set level? It is a real b#$%# to lower my overflow. I do not want to do it again. How low? Thanks, Zak |
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10-14-2007, 04:32 PM
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| | Feather Star
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Miami,Fl Age: 19
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| There is not a set level, but usually you want to get it as close to the top as possible. This helps remove the film that develops on the surface of the water. You also have to keep in mind that when you stick something in the tank such as hands (when you're cleaning it) the water level is going to rise, so make sure you compensate for that.
The problem your having is that your return pump is way overpowered for your tank. Either throttle it down a lot or get a less GPH pump. _________ 90 gallon tank with center overflows, 44 gallon custom sump/fuge, Tek T5 retrofit 4x54 bulbs, Reef Octopus nw200 protein skimmer, Iwaki WMD40RLXT return pump (changed to panworld 100pxx),Knop c ca reactor, PA light house controller. Click: Real-Time Stats 
^^ Testing it out! Ill add more param.. later. |
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10-14-2007, 07:32 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29
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| Power has it...kinda I lowered my overflow one last time and reduced the return pump even more. What a waste of a nice return pump. I did figure out what the problem is...maybe? Take a look at this. http://www.z-ice.com/Aquarium/sump/DSC01952.jpg
I do not want to take my hood off again but I may in a day or two. Once my temper has lowered. I want to turn my pump up to get more circulation. I did enough this weekend.
Zak |
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10-14-2007, 08:01 PM
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| | Corkscrew Tentacle Anemone
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 24
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by IBMGeek The problem your having is that your return pump is way overpowered for your tank. Either throttle it down a lot or get a less GPH pump. | Yea this is exactly your problem. Your overflow box isn't draining the water as fast as your return pump is refilling the tank. Does that make sense? (Not trying to dumb it down or make you sound stupid. Just qualifying the question) _________ 125 Gal Reef. Born March 2002 FISH: Ocellaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Fairy Wrasse, Sand Star, Fuzzy Dwarf Lion, Mandarin Dragonette, Hippo Tang CORALS: Green Striped/Red/Purple Mushrooms, Green Star Polyps, Yellow Toadstool Leather, Bubble, Frogspawn, 2 Hammers, Yellow Polyps, Open Brain, Ridge Leather, Various Zoas, Button Polyps, Kenya Tree, Colt, Elephant Ear Mushroom, Clove Polyps, Torch, Purple Clam, Rose BTA |
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10-14-2007, 09:46 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29
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| Water Tension Look at this: http://www.z-ice.com/Aquarium/sump/DSC01961.jpg
Originally I thought the water level was based on the lowest point on the input of the overflow. As you can see....nope! Perhaps I should use something different? Any ideas?
My return pump is barely moving any water. I want to open it up. What can be done? Lower my overflow?
Thus far I am not impressed with the "overflow" system.
Zak |
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10-15-2007, 04:56 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 40
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| The little slits you have in the top of the OF box are too small. You need to put twice as many in there or open those up. The water has to pass through them and they don't seem to be that big. I put eggcrate at the top of mine to keep fish out and not let it be a restriction to water flow. _________ Scott 265g (Peninsula)
3x400w MH's, 4x95w Actinics, AAT Lunar Lights, OM 4-way CL, PM Bullet 3 Skimmer, DelZone Eclipse 1 O3 Generator, WavySea Plus for return, AAT Kalk Reactor, KNOP Ca Reactor w/PM Second Chamber, TradeWinds Chiller, ACIII Controller, Oceanus ATO, PM PO4 Reactor, 75g Sump, 30g Fuge Born March 5, 2007 My 265 Gal. Tank Thread " REAL TIME TANK STATS "  |
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10-15-2007, 07:49 AM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29
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| Water Tension Look at this: http://www.z-ice.com/Aquarium/sump/DSC019611.jpg
What does an overflow tube look like? In the inside!? I think I need to dremel out a few more openings. I have a filter on the outside of the tube. I do not think I am getting enough flow exiting the overflow box. I want(must) have more power coming back to my tank. My return pump is barly 1/3 being used.
Is this a good idea?
Zak |
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10-15-2007, 08:53 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 40
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| You need to open these little slits at the top more or put more in there. Not very much water can pass through those little inlets. |
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10-15-2007, 10:00 AM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: Oct 2006
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| Zac
First what is your return pump and what is it rated? How big is your tank?
It looks like the openings inyour overflow box are very small but you might be able to lower it so the whole opening on the tank side is just below the surface. This is how mine is set up. Also the U-tube you are using what is the inside diameter? This looks fairly small. The bulkhead fittings in your overflow how many and what size? What size is your plumbing?
A 1inch bulkhead will only flow 600gph at best.
My sytem uses two 1 1/2 inch bulkheads feeding two drainlines into my sump. One feeds to the skimmer and the other is throttled back for my fuge. I use a Mag9.5 submerged in the return portion of sump and it runs wide open. I do have a different brand of overflow with a pump to remove air from the overflow as it builds up. With out this pump the sypon will break and tank overflows. |
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10-15-2007, 10:18 AM
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| | Peppermint Shrimp
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 630, IL Age: 23
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| you need another u-tube to pull more water. the one u-tube you are currently using isn't going to flow as much as your return pump. so add another hole to the over flow box. plumb it up for the second u-tube and second drain pipe. more teeth might help as well |
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