Click Here!
Promote! | Advertise | View Sponsors | Top100
Welcome to 3reef.com, the friendly tropical fish forum community where reef aquarium enthusiasts from around the world come to discuss coral reef aquariums, saltwater fish, corals, inverts, protein skimmers, fish filters, aquarium lighting, refugiums, etc. Also freshwater fish information on tetras, goldfish, cichlids and more!

You are currently viewing 3reef.com as a guest which gives you limited access to view most tropical fish forum discussions, articles and photo galleries. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photo gallery and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.
Go Back   3reef Forums > Filtration and Hardware > Filters, etc..

Tags:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-05-2008, 01:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
3reef Sponsor
 
Tangster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Va/Ct
Posts: 4,283
Karma: 3200
Tangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond repute


 
Default

Honestly I can't see how the wheel could add to them . Only connection I could see would be that the Bacteria is a very aerobic strain and they do better and are more efficient with more oxygen. Hence the wheels exposure to air and thats what they are designed to do. And the bottom lie is by removing the wheel you lowered the Oxygen content of the water and then the lower of nitrates .. But again nitrates are only present when they have Nitrites to consume..and then to have nitrites there has to be an ammonia source. I'd just have a spar set and keep one set bleached and rinsed and dry to change out. But again they are the last on the chain and their has to be a food source for them..and all they convert are nitrites.

That was my hole knock on the last re invention of the DSB they where to control NO3's and they did this by lowering the oxygen of the water and lowering the tanks capacity to carry more bio load .. But then it did not work as advertised they NO3 came just like with Bio balls .. Then they went to Adding Vodka and sugar carbons to spike the bacterias to lower the NO3's
I just have always ran a coil and I have never had any NO3 and a run a huge bio load and feel little.. I'd rather have some NO3 and more oxygen then dal with the NO3 in another way ..


_________

Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson)

Tangster is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reef Links
Click Here!
Old 04-05-2008, 03:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
Bristle Worm
 
Scubagator87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Gainesville, FL
Age: 21
Posts: 126
Karma: 51
Scubagator87 is moving on up!


 
Default

my nitrates are close to zero, zero nirtrites, and less than 0.25 ammonia. So no, I don't think I have a problem or anything, although I still have to run water tests today. And no, i'm not polluting my tank with food (removing all uneaten food). I was asking more as a preventative thing I guess. As in, should I be worried about the wheel being on there (which confuses me because up until a few days ago had heard nothing but good things about the wheel). My tank is also due for a water change.


_________

28 Gallon Bowfront
2 False Perculas
1 Long Tentacled Anemone
1 Scarlet Skunk Shrimp
1 Pearly Jawfish
Scubagator87 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2008, 03:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
3reef Sponsor
 
Tangster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Va/Ct
Posts: 4,283
Karma: 3200
Tangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond reputeTangster has a reputation beyond repute


 
Default

No I did not mean you where doing anything wrong. I was just saying with all NO3 issues the cause is usually the keeper.. After a certain level.. If it where me and its not I would leave the wheels and keep doing what you are for the cleaning and care of the tank . If you do ever notice an increase of NO3 then look for the cause.

NO3 are a food source for many corals and up to 10 ppm its a good thing if you keep a mixed soft and LPS corals and clams its all food to them..
Tangster is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2008, 04:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
Panda Puffer
 
aquaboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tatamy, PA
Age: 15
Posts: 2,122
Karma: 2132
aquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond reputeaquaboy has a reputation beyond repute


 
Default

Tangster, maybe the bio whell is converting ammonias and nitrites to nitrate faster and more efficently. perhaps, it is converting them before microalgaes, cyano bacteria, and corals can feed upon them from the water column? because i noticed once i removed my bio wheel for a week, my ammonia and nitrite staerted crreping up and cyano developed. Replaceing it caused everything to hit 0 again.........


_________

aquaboy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 11:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
Bristle Worm
 
Scubagator87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Gainesville, FL
Age: 21
Posts: 126
Karma: 51
Scubagator87 is moving on up!


 
Default

"No I did not mean you where doing anything wrong.", its all good, I just wanted to clear up the purpose of my question. Which I guess I still don't have a clear answer to. In any case I guess I don't have to worry about it unless my nitrates won't go down (and are very high) or something. If that happens i'll examine ALL possibilities as to ascertain the source of the problem.
Scubagator87 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 11:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
Bristle Worm
 
Scubagator87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Gainesville, FL
Age: 21
Posts: 126
Karma: 51
Scubagator87 is moving on up!


 
Default

and tangster basically already said what i said in my post, lol
Scubagator87 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reef Links
Click Here!
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My Nitrates are creeping up hazmat319 New To The Hobby 6 03-01-2008 08:21 PM
high nitrates dbyrd Water Chemistry 11 02-29-2008 01:33 PM
Nitrates spiraling out of control Jamaica_sun New To The Hobby 4 11-01-2006 02:48 PM
nassarius snails + high nitrates = missing ? serotonin Inverts 12 09-25-2006 05:53 PM
Low PH and High Nitrates jpw69 Water Chemistry 11 02-10-2004 12:52 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:49 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0,
----
All trademarks used are properties of their respective owners. All rights reserved.
All forum posts are the property of the posters. All else © 1996-2008, 3reef.com LLC.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74
Vote for 3reef!
(Clicking these counts as a vote)
aquariumrank

And here too!