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			<title>96 gallon progress</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:39:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[just started setting up the 96.  i've got 1/3 of the water, from the original set up, added. i've got a pump and heater, in the water.

today i plan on adding the sand,and setting up the rock work, along with adding more water.will leave about 1/3 of the water out, to add water from my 210 reef,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>just started setting up the 96.  i've got 1/3 of the water, from the original set up, added. i've got a pump and heater, in the water.<br />
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today i plan on adding the sand,and setting up the rock work, along with adding more water.will leave about 1/3 of the water out, to add water from my 210 reef, when all filtration is set up.<br />
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yesterday, i purchased a fu man chu lionfish, along with a volitains lionfish, and a niger trigger. the day before i purchased a beautiful neon green and pink wrasse. i &quot;donated&quot; my giant tomatoe clown, to my LFS.<br />
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the above fish are in my 29 gallon hospitol tank. they are all pretty small, so there is more then enough space for the short period of time they will be living there.besides, the lionfish don't swim around much.<br />
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 i wanted to purchase these fish now, not because i am in a hurry to get started(who is'nt?), but because i wanted to observe them for a while, to make sure i did'nt introduce any disease into the new tank.<br />
pictures below are of tank before teardown, at previous owners home.<br />
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			<title>Mushroom lighting</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:17:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have a 20" deep tank with a hanging luminaire, i have 2x39 watt actinics & 4xwhite 39watts on around 10 hours a day, is this too much or to less for my watermelon mushrooms, i also have a piece of perspex that slides across the luminaire to protect the bulbs its about 3 mm thick can i expect to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have a 20&quot; deep tank with a hanging luminaire, i have 2x39 watt actinics &amp; 4xwhite 39watts on around 10 hours a day, is this too much or to less for my watermelon mushrooms, i also have a piece of perspex that slides across the luminaire to protect the bulbs its about 3 mm thick can i expect to lose some light because of this?</div>

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			<title>Which tester?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:53:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Am gonna buy a water test kit tomorrow, which one of these 3 are the most important,
 
1-Calcium.
2-Magnesium.
3-Alkalinity.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Am gonna buy a water test kit tomorrow, which one of these 3 are the most important,<br />
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1-Calcium.<br />
2-Magnesium.<br />
3-Alkalinity.</div>

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			<title>Tank Regrets</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:08:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Don't know if a thread like this as already been started could not find one, but as the title suggests, is there anything you have added to your tank that you now regret & if so why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Don't know if a thread like this as already been started could not find one, but as the title suggests, is there anything you have added to your tank that you now regret &amp; if so why?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
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			<title>Is my Cowrie dead/dying?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:01:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've had a 2 inch cowrie in my 75g tank for the last 2.5 months.  he's been very active throughout the day.  in the last 4 days, things have changed.  first, i found him lying upside down.  i righted him, but after a few hours he hadn't moved and it didn't look like his body was sticking out like...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've had a 2 inch cowrie in my 75g tank for the last 2.5 months.  he's been very active throughout the day.  in the last 4 days, things have changed.  first, i found him lying upside down.  i righted him, but after a few hours he hadn't moved and it didn't look like his body was sticking out like usual.  his mantle still is extended over the shell.  i took him out to look a little, and his body moved around, so i put him on a rock.  over the next two days, he seemed pretty active again, always moving, but staying just to one rock rather than all over the tank.  then today he is again immobile, but now on inspection his body looks very shrunken inside the shell and didn't move at all.  the only recent change is that about 5 days ago (the day before this started) i added 3 small turbos and 2 scarlet hermits to the tank.  water chemistry hasn't changed at all.<br />
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anyone have any ideas what's happening?  am i losing my cool snail?<br />
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tia<br />
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75g tank/ 20 gal sump.  asm g1 skimmer, 110 lbs live rock, 8  snails, 2 hermits, 2 fire shrimp, 1 lawnmower blenny.  amm,no2,no3 all 0, spg 1.023 to 1.024, ph 8.4, ca 390</div>

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			<title>Thanks KOgle and bmshehan</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:44:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Wanted to post this so you all know what a great bunch of guys these two are. 

They came over Saturday and helped me move 5 ton of decorative gravel in some retaining wall I made and we done it in about 1.5 hrs. :P

Of course then we had 3 grown men and my 3 yr old son jumping in a trampoline...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Wanted to post this so you all know what a great bunch of guys these two are. <br />
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They came over Saturday and helped me move 5 ton of decorative gravel in some retaining wall I made and we done it in about 1.5 hrs. :P<br />
<br />
Of course then we had 3 grown men and my 3 yr old son jumping in a trampoline until we were out of breathe. ;D <br />
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Highlight of the day was when KOgle told me to turn around and when I did my boy was standing there with his white butt showing, :uhoh2: watering the front lawn. Sure am glad we live in the country. Kids! ;)</div>

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			<title>Filtration</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:30:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>hey guys I am about to set up a 6x2x3 and was curious to know what you think is the best filtration? I have been told that wet/dry is best and I have also been told that a wet sump is best??? any ideas? I was also thinking about a refugium? anyone done this for a freshwater?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>hey guys I am about to set up a 6x2x3 and was curious to know what you think is the best filtration? I have been told that wet/dry is best and I have also been told that a wet sump is best??? any ideas? I was also thinking about a refugium? anyone done this for a freshwater?</div>

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			<title>0 nitrates, brown/cyano algae?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:55:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I just tested my water and got supposedly 0 nitrates (measured twice). You think this is possible? If indeed nitrates are 0 then I must have crazy levels of phosphate (dont have test kit). I added the chaeto a couple months ago but brown algae grows on rock a day after I clean it.

Well anyways I...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I just tested my water and got supposedly 0 nitrates (measured twice). You think this is possible? If indeed nitrates are 0 then I must have crazy levels of phosphate (dont have test kit). I added the chaeto a couple months ago but brown algae grows on rock a day after I clean it.<br />
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Well anyways I did a water change right now (about 40g) since I have not done one since I started setup, then letting it mix with old water and doing another water change later (15g). And going to try to hook up my phospate reactor this week to see if it helps.</div>

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			<title>Zoas Are Dying!!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:53:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>my zoas are sick.  I had my first coral and first colony die from this before.  The last colony, each polyp would start to shrivle up and spit brown stuff out and then die.  Then the tube would get algea all over it and fall off.  The last colony I quarantined and iodine dip at least 5-7 times. ...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>my zoas are sick.  I had my first coral and first colony die from this before.  The last colony, each polyp would start to shrivle up and spit brown stuff out and then die.  Then the tube would get algea all over it and fall off.  The last colony I quarantined and iodine dip at least 5-7 times.  Still got worse put them in another buddies old tank, sand lights filters heater. and a ton of pods.  Anyway don;t know if this is the same thing but is reminding me of it. iodine dipped these guys and then took the pic, using lugols iodine for 20 mins.<br />
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Heres some pics, one is them a few days ago.</div>


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			<title>Tornado in my hood</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:58:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Ok well.  here it is.  

At between  6 & 7 am this morning we were hit with either a tornado or a micro burst.  They haven't told us yet...  It went North to South.   The North end of the town, where I live, in is like a war zone.   I was on the west side of what ever it was.  My house didn't...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Ok well.  here it is.  <br />
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At between  6 &amp; 7 am this morning we were hit with either a tornado or a micro burst.  They haven't told us yet...  It went North to South.   The North end of the town, where I live, in is like a war zone.   I was on the west side of what ever it was.  My house didn't sustain any damage, but my hubby's shed lost a metal panel on the lean-to part, some branches are down and my fence is crooked.  I got lucky.  There a bunch of houses that are unlivable. Some I couldn't get to cause the trees were all over the place.   We didn't have as much damage because, when we bought the place we cut most of the old trees down.  There were 6-80 year old Pines in my front yard and 5-50 yearr old pecan trees in the back.  Had it not been for cutting them down, My house would certainly have taken a direct hit from any or all of them.  <br />
<br />
 They finally put our power back on at 5-5:30, YEAH!!!   I didn't lose anything in my tank, cause I went and got my boss's generator at 10am, so 4 hours without power. And my stupid little piece of junk &quot;Backup&quot; air pump didn't work at all.  She had it from the last set of tornadoes.  One hit all the trees in her yard and demolished a neighbors house but hers was untouched.<br />
<br />
 I got a bunch of pics while driving to my in laws to check on them so I'm putting in the link for kodakgallery.com, where I store pics...btw...good site<br />
<br />
 A very small town next to us, Kite, got pretty much blown off the map.<br />
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Oh yeah..I'm SUPPOSED to be in ATL setting up a job at the zoo right now...(wish I was there)<br />
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<a href="http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&amp;Uc=tq9hwxw.1ie5j7rc&amp;Uy=r4zdtg&amp;Ux=0&amp;UV=470159618737_812205067208" target="_blank">Kodakgallery.com*Slideshow</a></div>

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			<title>Poor lobsters @ Grocery stores :(</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:33:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Anyone else ever feel like buying these guys just to save their lives? Ill never eat lobster, i seen one getting bought today...ive been told they scream when put into boiling water. At least kill em b4 boiling. Just had to vent</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Anyone else ever feel like buying these guys just to save their lives? Ill never eat lobster, i seen one getting bought today...ive been told they scream when put into boiling water. At least kill em b4 boiling. Just had to vent</div>

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			<title>Dissolved/Undissolved Oxygen</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:03:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was lurking around the forum and noticed that a lot of the threads about cycling had the phrase "dissolved oxygen" or "undissolved oxygen." Most of the threads just mentioned that to increase the oxygen (not sure dissolved or undissolved), you can add an air pump with an air stone or increase...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was lurking around the forum and noticed that a lot of the threads about cycling had the phrase &quot;dissolved oxygen&quot; or &quot;undissolved oxygen.&quot; Most of the threads just mentioned that to increase the oxygen (not sure dissolved or undissolved), you can add an air pump with an air stone or increase surface agitation What exactly are the two and what does a reef aquarium benefit from it? <br />
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Also, my tank is in the process of cycling right now, are you suppose to be topping off with R/O water? As the water level in the sump area is getting low and almost below the return pump.</div>

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			<title>Carpet anemone lighting.</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:56:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have a carpet anemone in my 90 gal. currently and I would like to put it in my 55 gal. for a species only tank. I am currently running a 400 watt metal halide light and 4 65 watt PC lights. Would the carpet be ok in a 55 gal. with only 4 65 watt PC lights?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have a carpet anemone in my 90 gal. currently and I would like to put it in my 55 gal. for a species only tank. I am currently running a 400 watt metal halide light and 4 65 watt PC lights. Would the carpet be ok in a 55 gal. with only 4 65 watt PC lights?</div>

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			<title>Magnesium question</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:52:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello all i was woundering if I wanted to raise me Mag. would i use Magnesium Sulfate or Magnesium Chloride. Also whats the differnce between the two? And how much would I dissolve in 1 gal. of RODI water?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello all i was woundering if I wanted to raise me Mag. would i use Magnesium Sulfate or Magnesium Chloride. Also whats the differnce between the two? And how much would I dissolve in 1 gal. of RODI water?</div>

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			<title>my 115 gal reef tank</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:28:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>hey all, 

I am still in the design faze of this project and I decided to go with a 115 gal tank. This is a pre-owned tank that I picked up on craigslist for $200, its pre-drilled in the two corners and the overflows are there. My first question is what should I use to clean this tank, it was used...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>hey all, <br />
<br />
I am still in the design faze of this project and I decided to go with a 115 gal tank. This is a pre-owned tank that I picked up on craigslist for $200, its pre-drilled in the two corners and the overflows are there. My first question is what should I use to clean this tank, it was used as a freshwater aquarium and was full and leak free when I picked it up. here is a few pics of it.<br />
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The Tank<br />
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Over flow<br />
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Can I remove these?<br />
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So at least I have a tank to start with, I am thinking of scraping off what I can and then bleaching the tank so it kills anything that is growing in the tank.<br />
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Seeing as that I own a bar &quot;beer and wine&quot; / pizzeria  I was thinking I am going to put  this tank into the wall. I have this wall that you can see from everyplace at the bar so I would think that it would go nicely there.<br />
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I know that I am new and I know that I have a lot of questions and thankfully the people here at 3reef have a lot of knowledge here and for the most part everyone is nice here.<br />
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I know I am going to need some good lighting, I am thinking maybe 4 400w MH with Tangsters recommendation on the south pa bulbs. not sure on the skimmer yet, due to the fact that I am not sure how big of a sump and ref I am going to build, I am thinking 100gal sump with a 50 or 100 gal ref. I know due to the fact that the temp changes from anywhere from -40f to 100f depending on the season I am going to need a chiller/heater combo. I am not able to cool the room that we are in so the temp will swing inside from 90f in the summer to about 65f in the winter. I have so many more ideas and questions that I will post as I go and as they come up.<br />
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any help or ideas would be great, or simply tell me I am out of my mind!<br />
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here is a pic of the bar and the draft tower! so if your in upstate NY and want a cold one stop in.<br />
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