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05-06-2008, 10:33 AM
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| | Feather Duster
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, CA Age: 33
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|  Amyloodinium? Sad day
I lost my Flame Angel this morning. Yesterday at the morning feeding (10AM) he was fine with good color and eating, then last night as I was cleaning the intakes on the powerheads (around 10PM) I noticed that he had what I thought were bubbles or sand stuck to him. As I was stirring a lot of junk up I decided to wait a few hours and watch- I didn't see him again until 3AM (insomniac) when I found him sand surfing but still breathing, covered in white spots. I scooped him out and dropped him into a hypo bath @82F 1.010sg. Color faded out in patches, gills bright red. Needless to say it was too late; the two other fish are MIA.
Given how fast it nailed him I'm thinking amyl and not ich-
The only recent changes have been dosing phyto every other day the last three weeks and the addition of 6 blue leg hermits two weeks ago, everything has been going great, good params, good growth from the inverts normal feeding, etc. with the exception of a cyano bloom that I keep trying to vacuum up and a little GHA on the green stars.
Question 1) Should I go invert-only for a month or nuke the tank?
2) Apart from not having formalin on hand, did I treat correctly?
3) Is there some way to mitigate this in the future?
TIA
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05-06-2008, 11:58 AM
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| | Panda Puffer
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tatamy, PA Age: 15
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05-06-2008, 12:01 PM
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| | Giant Squid
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Im willing to bet the phyto is what caused an outbreak Amyloodinium. I had a similar situation last year or the year before with cyclopeeze. It was a total loss as a result. You overfed phyto like I did with cyclopeeze thus producing a lot of excess micro food that fed the dinoflagelettes. The dino's (Amyloodinium) went after your fish once the tank was overrun with them. Thats what happened to me. _________ [center]Renaming Our Corals "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." Andre Gide | |
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05-06-2008, 12:20 PM
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| | Feather Duster
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, CA Age: 33
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Originally Posted by geekdafied  Im willing to bet the phyto is what caused an outbreak Amyloodinium. I had a similar situation last year or the year before with cyclopeeze. It was a total loss as a result. You overfed phyto like I did with cyclopeeze thus producing a lot of excess micro food that fed the dinoflagelettes. The dino's (Amyloodinium) went after your fish once the tank was overrun with them. Thats what happened to me. | Interesting- and crap! You'd think the stuff would come with a warning! | |
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05-06-2008, 12:31 PM
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| | PICTURE POLICE
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 39
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Originally Posted by geekdafied Im willing to bet the phyto is what caused an outbreak Amyloodinium. I had a similar situation last year or the year before with cyclopeeze. It was a total loss as a result. You overfed phyto like I did with cyclopeeze thus producing a lot of excess micro food that fed the dinoflagelettes. The dino's (Amyloodinium) went after your fish once the tank was overrun with them. Thats what happened to me. | Im sorry for your loss GeejEx. Hey geek, how often where you dosing the phyto? I dose once every 3-4 days and keep the skimmer running. Luna _________ 9YR OLD 90G/55g custom sump/refug Mag18 Aquac 180skimmer 692w MH AC jr,yel&kole tang,midas&convict blenny,B&G chromies,Blk/yel fin chromie blackcap,nemo,neon goby,6line; Blastomussa Merleti,Acan ,BUBBLE,Torch,LTA, Acropora(2) Moon, assort zoas, yel& G star polyps, P&B ricordia, montiporas, cup&candy corals, xenias,B/G mush,flower ane(2), cherry red mussa, dusters,cleaning crew..  | |
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05-06-2008, 12:39 PM
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| | Feather Duster
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, CA Age: 33
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Originally Posted by lunatik_69 Im sorry for your loss GeejEx. Hey geek, how often where you dosing the phyto? I dose once every 3-4 days and keep the skimmer running. Luna | I was dosing every other day with the suggested amount, then cut that in half when I started to get some diatoms on the sand. Left the skimmer running the whole time. I reduced the lighting period for a few days to try to get the cyano/dia under control. | |
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05-06-2008, 04:11 PM
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| | PICTURE POLICE
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 39
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Originally Posted by GeejEx I was dosing every other day with the suggested amount, then cut that in half when I started to get some diatoms on the sand. Left the skimmer running the whole time. I reduced the lighting period for a few days to try to get the cyano/dia under control. | I never heard of phyto doing so much damage, was this "live" phyto? | |
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06-23-2008, 01:49 AM
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| | Ritteri Anemone
Join Date: May 2008
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since there was no answer luna, I'll say I use marine snow about every 5 days or so. I unplug my return pump and let the cls push it around for about an hour and then I turn the pump back on and let the skimmer have it. Works great for me as I have never even seen dyno
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