Zoas not opening yet?

[missionsix66]

Originally Posted by amcarrig

Have you examined the zoanthids for nudibranchs and/or zoa pox?

What are zoa pox?

[amcarrig]

ZoaID.com! :: The definitive repository for named Zoanthids!

[cuttingras]

Originally Posted by lunatik_69

and where are the pics? cuttingras and myself are waiting. I want to see what $100.00 of zoas look like.

for real!!!! Have the opened at all yet?

[sssnake]

I also am waiting for mine to open up:



I bought them about a month ago and have yet to see them open up. At first I placed them on the bottom of my tank on the sand with no results. Last week I moved them up about half way and placed them on a piece of LR. I did not light acclimate them. Also noteworthy of mentioning is I have a peacock toby (puffer) as well as a blue throat trigger. Could the livestock be an issue?

@missionsix66:
Apologies for hi-jacking the thread but I thought since I have the same problem we can share a remedy.

Thanks

[cuttingras]

sssnake very pretty though!!

[sssnake]

Originally Posted by cuttingras

sssnake very pretty though!!

Thanks.....you should have seen them at the LFS!

Anyway, I'll wait.

[omard]

Originally Posted by amcarrig

ZoaID.com! :: The definitive repository for named Zoanthids!

Great link Annick...!!!

(Added to my "Zoa Info List")

25 Reasons why your polyps won't expand.


(MUCHO REEF - RC)

1. You have a zoanthid eating worm.

2. Sundial snails. ( I've experienced this )

3. A fish that is nipping at them, there are several well documented cases of this. ( I've experienced this )

4. An invert doing the same. ( I've experienced this )

5. Unstable or fluctuating parameters.

6. Large Emerald Crabs or a Sally Lightfoot. Both can and will
consume, kill and cause polyp retraction. ( I've experienced this )

7. Sea Spiders. ( I've experienced this )

8. If shipped, the water was much too cold and you placed it directly into your tank without slowly drip acclimating them. Or, the inverse, the water was too warm.

9. Nudibranchs ( I've experienced this )

10. Stray Voltage. ( I've experienced this )

11. Excessively high Iodine which would prove fatal.

12. Light shock

13. Polyps that were kept in PC or VHOs and then placed mid to high level under MH's without light acclimating them. Possible burning could also occur.

or

Polyps that were in maybe dual 175 SE Mh and then placed mid to high under 400 watt DE MH, will cause possible burning or a delayed expansion.

14. Other stinging corals.

15. Chemical warfare.

16. Overpowering current. ( I've experienced this )

17. Excessive collection of sediment. See post 1, 6 and 7 in the link below.

18. Nuisance algae around the polyps which will irritate them and prevent them from expanding. ( I've experienced this )

19. Temperamental, yes, they are, there may be nothing at all wrong, that simply don’t want to expand for that day.

20. Fungus

21. Bacterial infection. ( I've experienced this )

22. White lesions also referred to as Zoa Pox. ( I've experienced this )

23. Amphipods, which I have only witnessed eating sick, dead, dying, decaying polyps. Doesn’t mean they won’t eat perfectly healthy ones, I just haven’t witnessed it, some have.

24. Extreme hypo or hyper salinity


25. And the final reason may not be any of the reasons above. Why? Periodically, polyps will retract from days to 10 to 14 days, during which they will clean themselves externally. Then without any advanced notice, they will unfold like a flower or a summer’s morning.


I'm sure there are many more. If you have witnessed anything that you know for sure is a contributor to this list, please add it. Hopefully this thread can become a springboard for some discussion on this topic.

Mucho Reef

PS. There are proactive measures that one can take to prevent or greatly reduce your chances of experiencing the above. Most notably...

1. Dipping
2. Close inspection
3. Quarantine your new purchases
4. Educating yourself on what to look for and recognize. I think a lack of knowledge is the one major contributors to most unfortunate experiences in reefing.

[amcarrig]

Love that avatar sssnake. Brings me back

[sssnake]

Originally Posted by amcarrig

Love that avatar sssnake. Brings me back

Yeah...me too! Thanks

[cuttingras]

Mission and SSSnake have they opened yet? How bout an update!

Omard, this is the only one that I can figure would have made mine not open and then disappear...

16. Overpowering current. ( I've experienced this )

even though I'm pretty sure it wasn't...I've had them at numerous placements and nothing seemed to work..

I've seen that list a few times and looked at each symptom and none of them "fit". hmmmm