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07-11-2006, 05:10 PM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Oct 2005
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| Sick Coral Help my flour pot coral is dieing it dose not open much any more and there are lots of black spots all over it, looks like its dieing |
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07-11-2006, 06:31 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
Posts: 6,344
| These corals are not very hardy. How long have you had it for? |
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07-11-2006, 07:38 PM
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| | Scooter Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 26
Posts: 1,200
| I can't agree more with amcarrig. It is said that they have a life span of 6 months then they wither and die. It has been found that they need Iron to prevent bleaching but only a select amount of experienced reefers have been able to keep them thriving for past a year.
A little advice, dont buy another one again, they will die, gauranteed. Of course, I'm talking about the small polyped gonio's and not the large polyped ones, those are a lot hardier.
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30g reef tank, CPR CY192 filter w/ DIY plumb running Rio 17HF return, Coralife 3x 9w UV Sterilizer, 3 24W T5-Helios 10K Daylights/3 24W T5-Helios Blue lights, 2 Logysis blue meteor light strobes (moonlights/24 Blue LEDs).
Tiger tail cuke, asst. snails/hermits, asst. feathers, rainbow acan,zoos,shrooms,bubble,galaxea, asst. shrimp, 2 ocellaris,mandarin,zebrasoma xanthurum,pink-spot watchman,red-striped pistol. |
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07-11-2006, 07:43 PM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Oct 2005
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| I have had it since JAN, o well al take what is left of it out of the tank thanks all. |
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07-11-2006, 07:55 PM
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| | Corkscrew Tentacle Anemone
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 24
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| Well also what kind of light do you have it under? Flower Pots are said to need intense lighting. Yea they are difficult and still one of those corals that reefers as a whole aren't having much luck with. I got a small rock for $20 that I'm trying out for now. So we'll see but I am prepared for it not lasting longer then 6mo even tho I have a lot of experience myself. _________ 125 Gal Reef. Born March 2002 FISH: Ocellaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Fairy Wrasse, Sand Star, Fuzzy Dwarf Lion, Mandarin Dragonette, Hippo Tang CORALS: Green Striped/Red/Purple Mushrooms, Green Star Polyps, Yellow Toadstool Leather, Bubble, Frogspawn, 2 Hammers, Yellow Polyps, Open Brain, Ridge Leather, Various Zoas, Button Polyps, Kenya Tree, Colt, Elephant Ear Mushroom, Clove Polyps, Torch, Purple Clam, Rose BTA |
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07-11-2006, 10:36 PM
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| | Scooter Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 26
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Originally Posted by Brandon1023 Well also what kind of light do you have it under? Flower Pots are said to need intense lighting. Yea they are difficult and still one of those corals that reefers as a whole aren't having much luck with. I got a small rock for $20 that I'm trying out for now. So we'll see but I am prepared for it not lasting longer then 6mo even tho I have a lot of experience myself. | I disagree with this theory. Mannyhernz on this forum had a purple gonio under halide and it still died. My guess is that their life extends to a MAX of 6months under intense light. I suspect gonio's need a lot of organics to filter off of in the wild along with intense light. Who knows, they might be 50/50 on light and organics. |
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07-12-2006, 02:05 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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| Goniopora requires alot of DOM(dissolved organic material) for nutrients, which basically goes against the laws that basically govern the success of our tanks. We strive to have as little nutrients(ammonia, nitrite and nitrates) in our water. Therefore carbon and excessive protein skimming are the norm to rid our tank water of these nutrients and contaminants.
It is suggested that Goniopora rely on a higher level of these nutrients than we are willing and able to create and live by due to strict water parameters requried by most of our other prized corals and inverts!
I believe that that is the biggest reason for the demise of Goniopora in our tanks over the short period of time. More so than because of lighting deficiencies or descrepencies. It use to be that you had to have metal halides before you could have success with Goniopora, but that isn't the case. _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well>
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07-12-2006, 07:24 AM
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| | Eyelash Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lakeland, Fl
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| If you would like to read up on the subject? I have a good link to an article that talks about them in detail. http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...nftt/index.php
Jim
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07-12-2006, 11:29 AM
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| | Scooter Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 26
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Originally Posted by coral reefer Goniopora requires alot of DOM(dissolved organic material) for nutrients, which basically goes against the laws that basically govern the success of our tanks. We strive to have as little nutrients(ammonia, nitrite and nitrates) in our water. Therefore carbon and excessive protein skimming are the norm to rid our tank water of these nutrients and contaminants.
It is suggested that Goniopora rely on a higher level of these nutrients than we are willing and able to create and live by due to strict water parameters requried by most of our other prized corals and inverts!
I believe that that is the biggest reason for the demise of Goniopora in our tanks over the short period of time. More so than because of lighting deficiencies or descrepencies. It use to be that you had to have metal halides before you could have success with Goniopora, but that isn't the case. | Yep, somewhere I read that they are a "dirty coral" and need to be surrounded with organics. Gonio's are voracious eaters like Carnation, which is impossible to keep without pumping the tank with nutrients all the time. |
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