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06-04-2007, 01:51 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 21
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Originally Posted by amcarrig Great advice given by MDeth but I wanted to add that croceas slowly burrow themselves into rock so you don't really need sand under it at all. | I was about to say that too _________ Tank Specs:
55 Gallon Mixed Reef
48" Tek Light: 4-54W T5 HO Fluorescents
Bulbs:
1 x 54w Fiji Purple T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w Super Actinic Blue T5 HO Flourescent
1 x 54w 14000K AquaBlue 75/25 T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w 10000k AquaSun T5 HO Fluorescent
Hard Stuff:
100+ lb. Fiji Live Rock
65+ lb. Live sand |
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06-04-2007, 02:05 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson AZ
Posts: 366
| Lol. yea I take my phone with camera and take pics and do research. They look at me like freak! But hey LFS people are not allways right. _________ |
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06-04-2007, 02:17 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Whittier, CA
Posts: 49
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Originally Posted by Kentanner11 Lol. yea I take my phone with camera and take pics and do research. They look at me like freak! But hey LFS people are not allways right. | LOL exactly! My b/f's LFS a while back ago sold him an adult Dragon Wrasse and assured him it was reef safe to have in his tank (full of fish and corals). First thing it did was try and eat his yellow tang. I happened to be at his house at the time and told him that Dragon Wrasse were not reef safe and prob not a good idea to have in a tank with his other fish (firefish, watchtower goby, blenny, etc.) LOL he ran back to the LFS with it and got a sponge in return.
Funny... at the time I didnt even have a fish tank and I already knew that mix of fish wouldnt work! _________ 40 gal acrylic tank, 20 gal wet/dry sump, 3.7 gal HOB CPR fuge, CPR bak-pak skimmer, Eheim canister filter, 192w Coralife CF, 150w 10k MH, 200w heater 40lbs of live sand, 50 lbs of live rock 8 blue leg hermit crabs, 2 Turbo snails, Tiger brittle star, sand star, 3 feather dusters 1 T.Crocea, 1 Pajama Cardinalfish, 1 mandarin dragonet, 1 purple firefish, 1 hi-fin banded shrimp goby ast mushrooms, xenia, zoa's and glove polyps Malama na Honu |
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06-04-2007, 06:42 PM
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| | Teardrop Maxima Clam
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: IL Age: 20
Posts: 793
| I lied...the croceas have the smallest and finest 'gills'
^After that the derasas, and after that...it doesnt matter :p
Just make sure to keep your baby out of any dust storms _________ 14g Oceanic Cube
Randall's Goby/Shrimp Pair * 3x Sexy Shrimp |
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06-04-2007, 10:14 PM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 50
Posts: 1,181
| Go with a Derasa or tear drop or gold maxima for your first clam. T.crocea's need alot of light and might do ok under the lighting you have, but maxima's are a little less demanding especially the non-blue colored variety. Start with one of these first and see how it does for a year. Derasa's would be no problem on the bottom of your tank.
Clams also do much better under 10K lighting. Check with Barry at clamsdirect.com. _________ 75g reef with Nova Extreme 8 bulb HO T-5 lighting, refuge, Remora skimmer, DSB, Seio powerheads, Acro's, LPS corals, assorted zoo's & mushrooms, Yellow Tang, Maroon Clown, Blue Cleaner Goby , Cleaner, Fire and Sexy Shrimp, Coco Worm, T.Crocea Clam, Derasa Clam
120g FOWLR, 260w Orbit power compact lights, Remora Pro skimmer, 30g DIY Sump/Refuge, DSB,Seio Power heads, Powder Blue Tang, Purple Tang, Flag Fin Angel, False Eye Puffer, Copperbanded Butterfly and a Moorish Idol
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06-05-2007, 02:37 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Whittier, CA
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Originally Posted by RAVEN Go with a Derasa or tear drop or gold maxima for your first clam....... | Ok... great suggestion.... but what else do I need to know about Derasa?
All I have read about are the Croceas. |
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06-05-2007, 03:52 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator | I don't understand why everyone is steering you away from Croceas. IMO your tank is adequate and that's the clam you want. I say go for it
J |
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06-05-2007, 03:56 PM
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| | Teardrop Maxima Clam
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: IL Age: 20
Posts: 793
| All the clams are pretty much the same care-wise (to an extent).
Anything under 3" should be fed phytoplankton supplements every couple of days. < This isn't needed but helps survival of these clams.
Crocea, Maxima - Crocea being the most light demanding and maxima being the next. After that ANYTHING can thrive under the sunpod (even on the sandbed IMO). Honestly, I wouldn't dissuade you from getting a crocea. All clams available in the industry are aquacultured so it isn't like you're killing wild caught specimens. ANY MH (even 70w) will put out enough light to keep any clam happy as long as it is above them and not further than 12" or so away.
I'd say go nuts :p I've got a maxi and a gigas in my BC14 and both are showing growth already (2 months? i forget). If you feel unsure, get a clam you like that is less light demanding and put it in a different spot. < Observe and get used to what you're looking at, then 'upgrade'.
TY Jason ^^^ |
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06-05-2007, 11:59 PM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 50
Posts: 1,181
| Go to clamsdirect.com for clam info and a good clam forum. Email any questions you have about clams and you lighting to clams direct. They usually respond in 1-3 days and are very helpful.
If you go with a Derasa they like to be places on the sand. If you get one, place a small piece of a flat rock or acryllic under the sand, under the clam. That way if the clam likes that spot he will attach his foot to the rock or acryllic and not the bottom glass of the tank. This way you will be able to move the clam without damaging it trying to pry its foot loose.
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06-06-2007, 07:26 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Whittier, CA
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| Jason... thanks... all I really wanted was someone who has done clams before to tell me that 6 months of reading and orderinng $400 worth of stuff for a clam wasnt a waste of my time! I really do want a Crocea and your the first person that has even come close to telling me that my tank WILL support one.
(knowledge of how to do something only gets you so far... getting a second opinion about what your about to do is priceless )
MDeth... thanks... I'll keep that in mind! Ive had a few people tell me that getting any clam under 4" is probably going to be more time consuming in "bottle" feeding than I can put in (even thou I work basically from home)
Im sure I'll end up being on here every other day asking dumb questions about something or another, but atleast I read about caring for it before buying it! |
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