ATTN Newbs and Old reefers alike....

[geekdafied]

Originally Posted by inwall75

This thread is getting divisive and I really don't think that was Geek's intention at all.

The best anology I can give is.....

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime.

Brian, correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are commenting on just what I said.

Thats exactly my point when I started this thread.

Originally Posted by scenario1313

Ya'll might not like me to say this but I am going to say it anyway. This thread does not need to go any further so people will not get mad at each other. Geek I have learned a lot from you and you mentioned about moving on. Don't go we need you here and lets just drop this whole thing. Everyone agree.

Im not going anywhere. 3reef is my home away from home, lol.

[wastemanagement]

[quote=geekdafied;457064 I enjoy getting on here and looking at every ones pics, getting to know fellow reefers, dont care a bit to help a newb, as most of you know, I dont care a bit to help somebody out. quote]

what a great thread I think both sides hold great merit, but I think Geeks point may have been misinterpreted here.
For sure the above statement doesnt mean I dont care a bit to help somebody out but more I will help anyone out. (correct me if im wrong)

That being said I woke up this morning and my Blue Tang Dorie had some kind of white dots on him WHAT COULD IT BE!!!!!

[Boredm]

Originally Posted by geekdafied

um... you have no idea what I do.... Im nowhere near your average reefer and I am always willing to try new things and think outside the box. As I stated in an earlier post on this thread, Im not a cow, I dont follow the herd.

I am currently doing a study on dipping with potassium permanganate for Montipora eating Nudibranchs and documenting every aspect of it, with pictures also. During this study, I have found another potential predator of Montipora's that has never been documented and probally undiscovered. I also have pics and documentation of it from my work on this. Im hoping to wrap up the study on Montipora eating Nudibranch's in the next few weeks and submit to be published. My goal was to do another study using potassium permangante on Zoanthid eating Nudibranch's but I may continue with the new potential predator for Montipora's and see if that comes to anything notible.

Like i said, we'd be better off doing the research than asking for advice from people who think themselves better than the average.

[Boredm]

yea, I'm done with this. peace

[shipbear]

Like i said, we'd be better off doing the research than asking for advice from people who think themselves better than the average.

Well said Boredm.. but I also have to agree with Geek..

Like I said, with out this site I wouldn't have a reef tank..

But it's not to do with one person, but many..
This is the best site, and I go to many.. Learning all I can..

Like someone once said...........
There is no " I " in TEAM

And I thank everone that has helped me...
And I think Geek helps make this Site what it is, And many more people..

Larry

[R34dawn]

Hey now! this is what I like to add to this thread; I browse the web for information on salt water tanks before, and found a lot of helpful info here! and people are always willing to help, now before I register I did also a lot of reading on my own, till I couldn't find a particular thing about mushrooms, so I register so I could ask, and a fellow reefer was rather rude than nice and told me that my post was out of the respective thread, in a hateful manner! so I thought, that's what I get for not watching where I post!!!! fine I know better now, so I post in the right thread, then another time, this same person was also rude to another noobie, I almost said something to him, but I let it slide. Now if geeks told some one to read before asking a question that's been answer many times before, I can't not blame him! because like Bogie mention, Matt has work on this site tremendously to keep up with the demands of reefers looking for answers, HAS any one remembers the times when it was down?? and if we going to have gigabites of nothing but the same question, he's work is pretty much in vain. Now they are many forums with less forgiving admins and moderators. however I don't think geeks said anything to offend any noobie, as I was told on my first post about my mushrooms...lol

[gazog]

Originally Posted by geekdafied

um... you have no idea what I do.... Im nowhere near your average reefer and I am always willing to try new things and think outside the box. As I stated in an earlier post on this thread, Im not a cow, I dont follow the herd.

I am currently doing a study on dipping with potassium permanganate for Montipora eating Nudibranchs and documenting every aspect of it, with pictures also. During this study, I have found another potential predator of Montipora's that has never been documented and probally undiscovered. I also have pics and documentation of it from my work on this. Im hoping to wrap up the study on Montipora eating Nudibranch's in the next few weeks and submit to be published. My goal was to do another study using potassium permangante on Zoanthid eating Nudibranch's but I may continue with the new potential predator for Montipora's and see if that comes to anything notible.

Hey that too cool qeek, I would like to read that one.... I had a run in with those little son of a birches a while ago, lost a really nice big piece of orange Monti.

[jimw369]

Originally Posted by pharmrjohn

I think it's time for a group hug now...........



Yeah.....but it comes back to the trust issue. Who do I trust? Spark I trust, you I trust. I don't trust the Internet at all. Anybody can put up anything and it becomes "fact". Look at Wikipedia. I know what your experience levels are. And if someone read it somewhere, then that counts. It depends on where they read it, but if it backs up what where the thread is going, I take into consideration as a tiebreaker. I have quoted what I have read. I am a Bob Fenner fan. That dude rocks. And his advise is good enough to publish.

So now to borrow something.....I need to find it......I do like the search engine on this site.......Couldn't find it. It was a cool animation of two smiley faces with long arms hugging themselves.

.......or we could start by singing "We are the World". Remember that master-piece of poopy?

You may want to eat before watching this......

YouTube - we are the world

Extremely good point! Thats what Full tank shots are for.
Some one cant produce a pic of them by there own tank I pass them right by.

[plop]

I don't want to add any fuel to the fire but I know fist hand on how the common web surfer thinks (I/my company I work for, build/design websites for large/fortune 500 companies), and all these common consumers want is information right now with as little work as possible. Sure most of us somewhat savvy web users could find an answer to the general questions were looking for, but I think most of the casual users feel like an answer is more valid when it comes from a question directly asked by themselves.

Long story short there is a wealth of knowledge found here, and know one should hesitate for a second to ask any question, regardless the simplicity of it. I for one would never hesitate to help someone who shares the same interests.

To sort of loop back to my original point, the common web surfers are the most abundant people on the web, and we always have to adjust or functionality, and ease of use, to their needs.

[Brandon1023]

Well whatever, agree or disagree I think the original purpose of this thread was very arrogant. "Don't ask without first searching." (Paraphrasing)

Please. Get over yourself. Who are you to tell everyone how they should approach this hobby? If they don't want to search because they feel like their opinion is unique, then who are you to tell them otherwise?

You don't know it all and you are not the one to tell anyone how they should or should not ask questions.

Again, Aiptasia (like you affirmed that was a question nobody should ask, arrogant!!): First of all anyone new to the hobby wouldn't even know what to call it. Let me tell you a story ~Brandon1023 assumes the kindergarten teacher position, with his children-like students surrounding him~

I was a couple months into starting my aquarium. Wow, so many options, so many possibilities. A visit to my Local Fish Store (LFS) and my eyes opened with wonder. Passing by each fish tank, one by one, deciding on what I should buy, I finally happened upon something pretty cool looking. Attached to a rock was a brownish wavy thing. What is this? Just $5??? It's coooooool! I want it! "No you don't" said the store clerk. "That's just a joke, the tag. If you bought that your tank would be overrun with them in a matter of months. Your corals would suffer. Trust me, you don't want this"

Without a second thought, I passed it by of course. But what was it called? I was new to all this so with everything else on my mind, again I forgot. Certainly 3reef has information on this parasite. But being a new person I don't know what to call it.

Enter this thread:

Don't ask without first researching? Well....I don't remember what it was called! God now I feel STUPID! Forget this, I'll find a different forum. One that doesn't presume to imply that without the proper research, I shouldn't bother with my apparently stupid question. Hello reefcentral!





My point is that it's very egotistic to tell people (newbs especially, as I have originally said) that they should search before asking. If you want to ask a question without searching beforehand, then do it. Most of us do. Lots of us will. Don't let one person's arrogance steer you otherwise.