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01-07-2008, 09:01 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NorthEast PA
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 |  Ick Problem HELP!!!!
I purchased a percula clownfish on thursday to replace one that just died for no reason tested water was fine took it to my lfs and he said was fine must have just been the stress as i picked him up about the day that the lfs got him that was about 10 days from last thursday, since i got this new percula on sunday i noticed that my blue hippo tang had some white spots and looked like ick, this morning my royal gramma and the percula that i got on thursday has a few white spots, the hippo has more, i raised the temp to 82-83ish was at 78-79ish. I went to work and was on a job site near my lfs so i went there and the guy sold me Kick Ick as the only other thing he had was one with copper. any expierence with this product and and suggestions??? i do not have a qt setup at this time, will def get one setup as soon as i can. I think at this time it is too late anyway for a qt as the whole tank but one percula and a stripe goby is fine.
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180g wide w/2 overflows custom tank,215lb lr,160lbs ls,2-400w 14k Reefstar 2 MH,2-Percula Clownfish,1-Hippo,Ylw,Purple Tang,1-Foxface,1-Royal Gramma,BTA,Sebae Anemone,40-rd & bl lg hermits,10-Scarlet,45-Margarita,30-Turbo
72galBF, Fluval 405,Berlin Skimmer,260w Orbit Extreme,Wet/Dry Filter,50lbs of lr, 90lbs ls,2-Percula Clownfish,3-4stripe damsels,1-Ylw Tg,1-Hippo Tg,Diamond Goby,9-turbo snails,6-Scarlet Hermits,10-Margarita Snails,15-Rd Lg Hermits. | 
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01-07-2008, 09:14 AM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 47
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Is your tank a Fish only tank? We have used Kick Ich and Rally together in a Fish Only Tank and it worked great. I have heard from some that it worked great and others that it did not work. It has worked for us everytime in both fresh and salt tanks....Rally will help with any problems that may occur from the depressed immune system that can be caused by Ich.
A little garlic in their food will also help to boost their immune system.
Good luck...I know how stressful these things are...Karma to you... _________ 72 gallon bowed 150lbs LR 60 lbs LS
2 Percs
1 Chevron Tang
Hippo Tang
Six Line Wrasse
Coral Banded Shrimp
Cleaner Shrimp
Starry Blenny
4 Lyretail Anthias
Long Polyp Toadstool
Montipora
Long Tentacle Anenome
Short tentacle plate
Pulsing Xenia
Green Star polyps
Frogspawn
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2 Clown
1 Coral Beauty
1 Fairy Wrasse
24 FOWLR
Dwarf Lion
125 gallon African Cichlid Tank http://home.comcast.net/~pizzal/index.html 
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01-07-2008, 09:32 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NorthEast PA
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No it's a reef tank. The lfs guy said you don't need to use garlic only if they seem to not be eating but all the fish are swimming around and eating as normal. | |
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01-07-2008, 09:49 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Gradually reduce the salinity of your tank to 1.012 or so for a short period of time. This should help with the ich problem then you can raise your salinity back up slowly again once the ich has subsided!!!! _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well> 
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01-07-2008, 10:28 AM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Orlando,Fl.
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copper kills reefs!!!!dont use itif you dont want tings to die.go for the garlic and raise the temp.if youcan find a neo goby(6-10 bucks)buy one nice looking fish and entertaining eats ick.but copper based products kills reefs.but also i have never used that before. | |
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01-07-2008, 11:14 AM
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| | Gnarly Old Codfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silverdale, Washington Age: 59
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Originally Posted by coral reefer  Gradually reduce the salinity of your tank to 1.012 or so for a short period of time. This should help with the ich problem then you can raise your salinity back up slowly again once the ich has subsided!!!! | Ditto...
Make sure water conditions are pristine...do water changes till they are. Keep temp's as stablized as you can.
Good Luck. _________ AG "125," AquaC EV 180, 30 gal sump, "SCWD", 80 lbs LR, CoralSeaLife "Moonlite" Hood, PFO 250W HQI Mini-Pendant (SPS HQI 14000k bulb)
12 Gallon NanoCube - 24w stock PC 50/50 light "...nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank, only bad things happen fast..."
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01-10-2008, 07:52 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MoPo, NJ
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ich attack , used once, worked really well did not harm any inverts or coral. double up on water changes _________ 90 Gal "Reefish" Tank 30 Gal Sump 135 EuroReef Skimmer 50lbs Various Live Rock-Fiji, Tonga, Ect Assorted Mushrooms (orange spotted) Assorted Coral (star polyps angels love to snack on) FISH-- Emperor Angel (just starting to change), Red Sea Sailfin, Banded Jawfish (BIG eater), Flame Angel, Royal Gramma, Eilbis Angel CLEAN UP CREW-- Blood Shrimp, Cleaner Shrimp, Purple Spine Sea Urchin, Margarita Snails, Cat's Eye Snails, Tequila Snails, Emerald Crabs, | |
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01-11-2008, 09:51 AM
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| | Banned
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: fairfax, vermont Age: 34
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Originally Posted by Viper3166 No it's a reef tank. The lfs guy said you don't need to use garlic only if they seem to not be eating but all the fish are swimming around and eating as normal. | IMO your lfs guy is way wrong..use the garlic..not the stuff in a bottle as after shelf time it lose's it zest and is pretty much a waste..real clove garlic. try making your own food.even base it on what u have in your tank. shrimp mussle pretty much anything from ur local grocery store except any oily fish ( aka salmon etc) add some nori, clam,crab and 4-5 cloves of garlic ( big garlic peel off 4 or 5 smaller cloves) and process it very very mushily add some tank water to help with the consistancy, grab a zip lock pour mush in. spread evenly in the ziplock and freeze..when u want to feed. break a peice of and chuck it in the tank..garlic is a natural immune builder ( live on an organic dairy farm we deal in herbology this is how i know this) good to go..HTH..good luck.. | |
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01-11-2008, 10:01 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 40
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Would not hurt to soak their food in Vit C also. I soak my food for about 20 min is both and have never had a problem with Ick. _________ Scott 265g (Peninsula)
3x400w MH's, 4x95w Actinics, AAT Lunar Lights, OM 4-way CL, PM Bullet 3 Skimmer, DelZone Eclipse 1 O3 Generator, WavySea Plus for return, AAT Kalk Reactor, KNOP Ca Reactor w/PM Second Chamber, TradeWinds Chiller, ACIII Controller, Oceanus ATO, PM PO4 Reactor, 75g Sump, 30g Fuge Born March 5, 2007 My 265 Gal. Tank Thread " REAL TIME TANK STATS "   | |
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01-11-2008, 10:07 AM
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| | Gnarly Old Codfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silverdale, Washington Age: 59
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Saltwater Ich and Garlic - Aquarium Fish Diseases Ick By: Terry D. Bartelme
"...I got a mental picture of Dracula the first time I heard of using garlic as a medication to combat saltwater ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) infections. Silver bullets, holy crosses, wooden stakes and garlic cloves have all been used to ward off some of the most hideous monsters ever seen in horror movies. The mere mention of any of these four evil-fighting "weapons" makes me think of how excited I would get to see the old horror films. Well, vampires are a sort of a parasite, aren't they? Could we say that the tiny parasite that causes saltwater ich is just a little fish vampire?
Seriously, Cryptocaryon irritans infections (saltwater ich) are no laughing matter. This parasite probably kills more captive marine fish than any other pathogen. Any tool that can be used effectively to combat an infection is valuable. Many of the therapies that are consistently effective involve the use of copper-based medications or manipulating the salinity of the water. However, neither of these methods can be used in the presence of live rock, live sand or invertebrates. When copper and calcareous materials come into contact, a chemical reaction takes place that binds them together. This removes the copper from solution, rendering it ineffective. The copper can then later be released by the live rock and sand back into the water and copper is highly toxic to invertebrates..." More:
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