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03-19-2007, 04:41 PM
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#11 (permalink)
| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 50
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You need a minimum of 8 weeks to kill ich with no host and preferably 12 weeks and even this may not kill it. I've battled it for a year and ended up tearing down my tank. Raise the temp to 82-84F, the higher the better and remove all your fish for 8-12 weeks. Try to keep the lights off as much as possible too. Treat all your fish with copper which is the only effective treatment. And make sure you get a copper test kit that is the same brand as your copper treatment. Just check out all the failures posted at Wetwebmedia, Aquarium, Pond, Marine and Freshwater Fish, reef tanks, and Aquatics Information This is a bad disease and very difficult to eradicate.
All your new fish should have a FW dip and QT for 2-4 weeks. I now treat all my new fish with low level copper. And I dont buy any more live rock. I use dead rock and live sand.
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03-19-2007, 05:37 PM
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#12 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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Here is some food for thought Raven... White Spot Disease or Marine Ich - Cryptocaryon Diagnosis and Treatment "Although copper is very effective on Oodinium, and it works well to eliminate crypto organisms in their free-swimming tomite stage, it is not as effective on the Cryptocaryon trophonts that burrow deeply into the tissues of fish. A combination of freshwater and formalin treatments adminstered by means of dips, baths, and prolonged treatment over a period of time in a QT is recommended. "
Formalin can be picked up online for like $10 plus shipping. | |
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03-19-2007, 06:04 PM
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#13 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 21
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We all need to remember that if you treat a tank with copper, you must be very wary when adding any new inverts or coral. Copper will be absorbed by the rock in your tank as well as the sand...and stay there for some time. If there is even a trace amount left it can be disastrous _________ Tank Specs:
55 Gallon Mixed Reef
48" Tek Light: 4-54W T5 HO Fluorescents
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1 x 54w Fiji Purple T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w Super Actinic Blue T5 HO Flourescent
1 x 54w 14000K AquaBlue 75/25 T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w 10000k AquaSun T5 HO Fluorescent
Hard Stuff:
100+ lb. Fiji Live Rock
65+ lb. Live sand
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03-19-2007, 06:27 PM
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#14 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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Thats why we all said to use QT for treating. | |
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03-20-2007, 05:21 PM
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#15 (permalink)
| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 50
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Formalin is effective but has a narrow therapeutic vs toxic range as well as being carcinogenic. As far as the burrowing trophonts, thats why you have to treat with copper for 2 weeks and why FW dips don't fully eradicate ich. Thats why I dip and QT for 2-3 weeks and now treat with low dose copper but have lately been tryng this new product called LifeGuard SW tablets. It's basically a form of chlorine that is safe for fish but toxic to bacteria, fungi and ich.
You bring up good points Geekdafied! | |
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03-20-2007, 06:00 PM
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#16 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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as do you bro!
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04-03-2007, 06:05 AM
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#17 (permalink)
| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Jan 2006
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I figured I would give an update. With elevated temps (84) and garlic two of my fish died when it came back the second time. I am going to let the tank sit fish less for at least 12 + weeks and set up a QT tank.
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55g, 2X110 vho, 1X54 slr atinic+ T5, 1X54slr 10,000k T5, 60lbs LR, 70lbs LS, Remora, 10g sump.
Coral-Green Star Polyps, Green mushrooms, leather, Ricordia, Button Polyps, candy cane, xenia, yellow gorgonian, flat brain.
Fish- False Percula Clown, 6 line Wrasse, (Lemon Peel Angel found a new home), sleeper goby
Inverts-Skunk Cleaner, Emerald Crab, 4 Turbo Snails, Blue leg hermits | |
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04-03-2007, 02:09 PM
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#18 (permalink)
| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
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80 maybe 81 was all you needed to turn up the heat just enough to speed up the life cycle of the flagellates ,84 was to high Oxygen was lowered to much. _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) | |
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