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03-11-2008, 06:14 PM
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| | Peppermint Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Seattle area Age: 36
Posts: 448
| Help, my refractometer isn't working I bought the portable refractometer from that Doctor aquarium place in Wyoming and it's acting weird.
I calibrate it using their ro water and adjust the screw until it reads zero, then when I put my salt water on it the readings go below zero. How can I have less than zero salt? What am I doing wrong? :O)
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Marty 72g Bow Front, 2x250w MH (10 hrs), 4x65 Act (14 hrs), 6xDual Moonlights (10 hrs), 300 gph from cannister filter and powerhead, Prizm hang-on protein skimmer, 50 lbs LR, CC Bed
Yellow Tang, 2 Clowns, Bubble Tip Anemone, 2 Yellow Tail, Humbug, White Spot, Ornate Goby, Emerald Crab, Sally Lightfoot Crab, 2 Blue Legged Hermits, 15 Scarlet Hermits, +Snails with no names (margaritas, turbos, astraeas) |
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03-11-2008, 06:35 PM
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| | Montipora Digitata
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, Indiana Age: 24
Posts: 1,088
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty I bought the portable refractometer from that Doctor aquarium place in Wyoming and it's acting weird.
I calibrate it using their ro water and adjust the screw until it reads zero, then when I put my salt water on it the readings go below zero. How can I have less than zero salt? What am I doing wrong? :O) | Make sure there are no bubbles under the glass, it needs to be solid water. Is your unit ATC (automatic temperature compensating)??? These are my best guesses!!! With mine I pull it out of the box drop water on it and I'm done! No problems at all, so I'm clueless if the above things don't help! _________ 55 gallon reef aquarium, 85 lbs. live rock, 2 1/2" sandbed, False Percula Clown & Foxface, Tetratec PF500 filter, 2 110 watt URI Super Actinic VHO actinics, 2 250 watt metal halides with Reef Optix 2 reflectors powered by Blue Wave 3 ballast Born 1/3/08 My Tank Thread My Tank Video
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03-11-2008, 06:47 PM
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| | Peppermint Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Seattle area Age: 36
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| Yeah, it's temperature compensating, but the bottle of calibration water says "PINPOINT Salinity Monitor 53.0mS Calibration Fluid +-1% @77F/25C American marine Inc. The refractometer model number is RHS-10ATC. No bubbles either. |
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03-11-2008, 06:58 PM
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| | Gnarly Old Codfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silverdale, Washington Age: 59
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| Take down to LFS and have him check it out and calibrate for you. _________ AG "125," AquaC EV 180, 30 gal sump, "SCWD", 80 lbs LR, CoralSeaLife "Moonlite" Hood, PFO 250W HQI Mini-Pendant (SPS HQI 14000k bulb)
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03-11-2008, 06:58 PM
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| | Montipora Digitata
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, Indiana Age: 24
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| I tried!!! See what any experts have to say... Meanwhile, have a friend test for you, if you don't have any buddies with a working refractometer maybe take a sample to your lfs and see what they have to say. you may have a defunct refractometer? |
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03-11-2008, 07:03 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 23
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| That's sounds really weird. Never heard of that before. All I can say is you're ok because Drs Foster & Smith have A++++ customer service. They'll send you a new one, no questions asked..
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150w 14,000K MH & 32w Actinic PC
Current USA 1/15hp Chiller
Fluval 305 Canister
AquaC Urchin Skimmer
Two Rio 10HF Pumps
Ocean Pulse Wavemaker
4g Refugium + 8g sump
Mag 7 Return
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03-11-2008, 07:26 PM
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| | Eyelash Blennie
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South Florida Age: 43
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Originally Posted by Marty 53.0mS Calibration Fluid +-1% @77F/25C American marine Inc. |
Marty, I'm not so sure this calibration fluid has no salinity to it. My best guess is that you're using a calibration fluid that contains more salt than sea water to calibrate your instrument to zero. Have your read the accompanying literature?
Do this: Boil a pot of water with a cover, and use the condensed water from the underside of the cover on the prism of the refractometer. That's distilled water.
For all intents and purposes, a refractometer can't "not work." It has no moving parts and uses only light and known refraction of salt to yield a reading.
Start with the distilled water, and I think your problem will be solved.
Good luck!
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90G display tank. Kent Phos Reactor running carbon and ROWAPhos, Coralife 225 Skimmer. Wet/Dry converted to 10 Gal Sump w/ auto topoff float valve connected to Typhoon 5 Stage RO/DI. Little Giant inline (external) return pump. Coralife 2x150MH, 14K + 2x96W PC Actinics, Ecotech Vortech propeller pump, Hydor Koralia #2. |
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03-11-2008, 07:38 PM
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| | Peppermint Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Seattle area Age: 36
Posts: 448
| I am soooo dumb! I did a search of this calibration fluid and the one complaints was that there is no instructions. Turns out it has a salinity of 35 ppt. So you have to calibrate it to that. Did and sure enough my tank water is 1.022. Thank god for google. hehe Think I will try it calibrating to 0 and to the 35 and take an average. <shrug> couldn't hurt.
Thanks for the replies. :O) Karma to you.. |
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03-11-2008, 07:44 PM
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| | Eyelash Blennie
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South Florida Age: 43
Posts: 1,251
| Use distilled water and calibrate it to zero. Don't knock yourself out. I don't care how "lab tested" that calibration fluid was at the factory. Although it's unlikely, that level can change and you'll never know it.
Distilled water is 0 everywhere. |
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03-11-2008, 07:52 PM
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#10 (permalink)
| | Montipora Digitata
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, Indiana Age: 24
Posts: 1,088
| WOW, learn something new every day!! I just calibrated mine with RO water and everything is great in refractoland!! Mine didn't come with any solutions either though, sounds like a waste of money for the company! |
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