Dino!? Please help!

bthomson · 07-02-2009, 12:08 PM

In just the last hour or so I have noticed what used to be my diatoms are now developing little balls and they are starting to float.

How can i get rid of this before it becomes a big problem? I had them in my QT and they always just seemed to come back within a few hours of scrubbing them off.

Feed the fish and go lights out for a few days?

bioreefdude · 07-02-2009, 12:14 PM

check ur water quality whats ur parameters

bthomson · 07-02-2009, 12:37 PM

Nitrite - 0
Ammonia - 0
Nitrate - 0
Ph - 7.9

About every 30 minutes to an hour it looks like the stuff doubles.

Phayes · 07-02-2009, 12:54 PM

dino's are truly a nasty algae- one that I have never experienced. However, in my reading and research on them- I have seen many people tear down their tanks because of it. Many theories exist on how to rid your tank of them (increasing pH would be one of them)- some people report moderate success, while others find that nothing seems to work.

First things first however, Let's get a picture of the tank. Ive seen blue-green cyano that takes on the look of dino's quite well! Let's pray for the possibility of that!

Phayes · 07-02-2009, 01:02 PM

Here is an excellent article on marine dinoflagellates....

Problem Dinoflagellates and pH by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Av8Bluewater · 07-02-2009, 01:27 PM

1. Are you using RO/DI water?

2. If so what's your TDS from the RO/DI water?
When I had them I noticed it was worse after a water change and my filters were starting to get old. Once the silicate was absorbed they would die down.

3. Are you running a phosban reactor? If not get one.

bthomson · 07-02-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Av8Bluewater

1. Are you using RO/DI water?

2. If so what's your TDS from the RO/DI water?
When I had them I noticed it was worse after a water change and my filters were starting to get old. Once the silicate was absorbed they would die down.

3. Are you running a phosban reactor? If not get one.

1. No
2. See above
3. Coming soon

As of right now i feel comfortable saying that maybe i jumped to a conclusion. Could be diatoms still but they do have little balls that moved with the current. Overall though i didnt see many with balls, just the ones on the sides of the tank. I cant get a clear enough pic of them.

greysoul · 07-03-2009, 09:51 PM

if you have a source of micro bubbles in the tank they can and will collect on algae on the glass... happens to me every time i do a WC or turn off the return pump and restart it....

Bunner · 07-06-2009, 07:06 AM

I had some of it as well. it travelled from the left to the right side of my 90 gal. I did nothing special and it went away on its own. I did read however you shouldnt do water changes. JMO

Also got a phosban and it didnt help. I also had RO/DI water....

This is JMO!

07-02-2009, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
bthomson Fire Worm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norton, KS Age: 21 Posts: 155 Skin: Mint Karma: 171	Dino!? Please help! In just the last hour or so I have noticed what used to be my diatoms are now developing little balls and they are starting to float. How can i get rid of this before it becomes a big problem? I had them in my QT and they always just seemed to come back within a few hours of scrubbing them off. Feed the fish and go lights out for a few days? _________ Tank: 65 gallon acrylic w/ 10 gallon sump, 48" 8 x 54w T5HO, 2x MJ1200 w/ 1600 GPH mod, 100lbs live rock, 50+ lbs live sand Livestock: 2x Green Chromis, Ocellaris Clowns, CBS, Coral Beauty, Engineer Goby, Fiji Devil, Crocea clam, Sebae NEM Coral: Merulina, various unknown polyps

07-02-2009, 12:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
bioreefdude Pajama Cardinal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: stockton ca Age: 27 Posts: 1,434 Skin: Mint Karma: 10091	check ur water quality whats ur parameters _________ Equipment: 65g DT.10g Sump.20g Refugium. Rio 1700 RT.Vortech mp20.2xHydro 1s.Phosban150.100g Skimmer. 2x39w t5 and 400w mh 20k .200w 50w heaters.100gpd ro/di.Refractometer. Fish.Juvi Tang.Pajama Cardinal.Black Sailfin Blenny.Tomato and Percula Clown.STBG Damelsx3.Dragonet Goby.Sixline Wrasse Coral.zoas.palys.mushrooms.hammer.torch.gsp.clove s.millepora.open brain Macros.Chaeto.Codium.Halimeda.Caulerpa.Gracilaria.Mangrov es

07-02-2009, 12:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
bthomson Fire Worm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norton, KS Age: 21 Posts: 155 Skin: Mint Karma: 171	Nitrite - 0 Ammonia - 0 Nitrate - 0 Ph - 7.9 About every 30 minutes to an hour it looks like the stuff doubles. Last edited by bthomson; 07-02-2009 at 12:49 PM.

07-02-2009, 12:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Phayes Aiptasia Anemone Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 24 Posts: 582 Skin: Mint Karma: 1283	dino's are truly a nasty algae- one that I have never experienced. However, in my reading and research on them- I have seen many people tear down their tanks because of it. Many theories exist on how to rid your tank of them (increasing pH would be one of them)- some people report moderate success, while others find that nothing seems to work. First things first however, Let's get a picture of the tank. Ive seen blue-green cyano that takes on the look of dino's quite well! Let's pray for the possibility of that! _________ Support the Coral Reef Alliance http://www.coral.org Last edited by Phayes; 07-02-2009 at 01:02 PM.

07-02-2009, 01:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Av8Bluewater Hammer Head Shark Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Old Town-22314 Posts: 2,630 Skin: Mobile Karma: 17869	1. Are you using RO/DI water? 2. If so what's your TDS from the RO/DI water? When I had them I noticed it was worse after a water change and my filters were starting to get old. Once the silicate was absorbed they would die down. 3. Are you running a phosban reactor? If not get one. _________ 20 Gallon Transfer tank. Garf Bonsai, Superman Monti, Purple haze,WellsoBrain,Pink Goniopora,GSP,Strawberry Fields Acro& Strawberry Monti,ORARedPlanet,ORABlueChips & ORAGrnBirdnest,Yellow,Pink&AquaMill,Tyree PinkLemonade,TyreeIdahoGrape,Green Slimer,Acans,Various zoas My former 180: .http://www.3reef.com/forums/fish-tan...ter-52764.html

07-02-2009, 01:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Phayes Aiptasia Anemone Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 24 Posts: 582 Skin: Mint Karma: 1283	Here is an excellent article on marine dinoflagellates.... Problem Dinoflagellates and pH by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

07-03-2009, 09:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
greysoul Johnny Hammersticks Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Albuquerque Age: 30 Posts: 658 Skin: Mint Karma: 7078	if you have a source of micro bubbles in the tank they can and will collect on algae on the glass... happens to me every time i do a WC or turn off the return pump and restart it.... _________ _{Hardware: 58g DT, 20g fuge/sump Ehiem 1260, 55# live rock, live sand bed, 2x150 15kK HQI, Vortech MP40w, Pinpoint pH monitor. Livestock: 2 A. Ocellaris, 20+ hermits, 1 skunk cleaner shrimp, 2 Zebra Turbo, 20+ Nassarius, 1 bumblebee snail, 2 Green Chromis, 1 sand sifter star, 1 tiger tail cuke Corals: 6 zoa rocks, Pulsing Xenia, 2x Acropora, GSP, mushroom/button polyps, Frogspawn, leathers, ... Born 4/20/09}

07-06-2009, 07:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bunner Aiptasia Anemone Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 594 Skin: Classic Karma: 1965	I had some of it as well. it travelled from the left to the right side of my 90 gal. I did nothing special and it went away on its own. I did read however you shouldnt do water changes. JMO Also got a phosban and it didnt help. I also had RO/DI water.... This is JMO! _________ DOB 02/09/09 90 gal, 20 gal sump/fuge, 2 x 150 20k MH Live Stock:Coral: pocillapora, green acro .Inverts: 1 Lysmata debelius, 1 Stenopus hispidus, 2 tongan conches, 5 astrea snails, 3 margarita, 8 blue legged hermits. Fish: 2 Chromis viridis, 1 Ctenochaetus strigosus, 1 Nemateleotris magnifica, 2 Valenciennea strigata, and 1 Pterapogon kauderni, 1 Pomocanthus Imperator, 1 Gobiodon okinawae, 1 Siganus vulpinus, 1 Synchiropus Splendidus. My tank build http://www.3reef.com/forums/blogs/bunner/