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Old 09-23-2007, 07:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
Mattfish
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Originally Posted by JustPhish View Post
Budget shouldn't be the way one decides between purchasing a wild caught fish which is just short of guaranteed to die vs the same species captive bred which has a much better chance at living a nice long life. Like I said before, which fish is more expensive in the long run? It's the dead one! Sure the captive bred will cost more upfront, but if it lives you're way ahead of the game. What good is the deal you got on the wild caught if it didn't live two weeks?
I think we're vehemently agreeing here - if you want to have a tank, then you have to expect that it costs money, and you should also expect that you're accepting responsibility for caring for the animals you choose, and that buying something because it's cheaper even though it's more likely to die and only "look good in your tank" for a short time is specifically NOT accepting that responsibility. FWIW, the understanding about budgets and stuff was really more of a way of pointing out that you may want that expensive fish you can't afford, but then "cheating" and finding a way to get it cheaper, despite the responsibility and the consequences. I'd bet that most people who don't participate in forums, and just throw a tank together without research and reading and doing it all by trial and error, are the ones, by and large, who don't understand that they have responsibilities or choose not to accept them. This is where the problem starts.

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Originally Posted by NATIVEVAMAN View Post
Matt you always look at things in a wonderfully idealistic way.Dont ever take off those rose colored glass's.
Yeah, I've been accused of that before, specifically by my oldest friend (known him since we were 4) and he happens to be a psychologist. But having run a pretty decent size non-profit (the largest non-profit flying club in the world) for several years, stuff like this can actually start to make a difference. As part of a way to "give back" a bit to this hobby, I'll look into forming a non-profit (I think it's horrendously complex, but I can check into it), and see if this is one of those things that maybe a bunch of those interested can join in on - who know's? Maybe it'll make it a difference, and maybe it won't....

Sounds silly, but the best thing I can think of for my gravestone is "he made a difference".....


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